On Snakes, Sticks, and Jedi Mind Tricks: An Interview with Byron Katie

I am posting my March 2007 Byron Katie interview, newly edited to be completely true to the original conversation and transcript. In print in the magazine Pure Inspiration and in the material previously posted online, the interview’s edit involved a significant back and forth between me and Stephen Mitchell, Katie’s husband and a renowned classical scholar,…

Byron Katie on the Turnaround in The Work

Ray: Katie, why is the turnaround so important in The Work? Is it because it shows us other possibilities than our own judgmental thoughts? Katie: Yes. It shows the mind what is as true or truer than the original thought. People usually find that the turnaround is as true or truer than the stressful thought…

Byron Katie on Questioning What You Believe

Ray: Does questioning your stressful thoughts—the process of inquiry—better support joy than trying to think joyful thoughts? Katie: By questioning our stressful thoughts, we come to see that they’re not true. And if we see that our stressful thoughts aren’t true—if we have questioned them deeply and thoroughly enough—what does that leave? It leaves love.…

Byron Katie on the Dream

Ray: Where do we go astray? How do we start down the path of living in thoughts and illusions rather than pure joy? Katie: It’s like this, to take a simple example: Your mother says, “That’s a tree.” And you’re a little kid, you don’t have a reference for it; for you, the whole world…